Curse

myword · Jul 31, 2006, 02:37 AM // 02:37

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Originally Posted by Silent Kitty

I have no choice. Factions is way to laggy. That, in combination with terribly overpowered monsters, chases me back to Tyria. I can't fight while my computer is lagging and staggering.
The graphics aren't so nice either.

overpowered monsters? what are you, a lvl 10 running around outside Kaineng?

TalonTheCat · Jul 31, 2006, 02:43 AM // 02:43

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Originally Posted by Vahn Roi

Factions had a big problem with faces in my opinion. Seems all but two or three faces for each male class were cross-eyed.

All my characters are female, so I never noticed that

milias · Jul 31, 2006, 02:44 AM // 02:44

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Originally Posted by myword

overpowered monsters? what are you, a lvl 10 running around outside Kaineng?

This has actually been brought up before. If you started a Factions char, you will most likely be at level 16 or 17 when you get to Kaineng Center. The henchies there are at level 20, so are the monsters. The AI is designed so that monsters always attack the lowest level character, which is unfortunately, in this case, the human player. That is probably the reason for that statement.

Toll Booth Willie · Jul 31, 2006, 02:47 AM // 02:47

Sorry for double post...

Eet GnomeSmasher · Jul 31, 2006, 02:48 AM // 02:48

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Originally Posted by myword

overpowered monsters? what are you, a lvl 10 running around outside Kaineng?

Yeah I didnt understand what she was talking about either..

Toll Booth Willie · Jul 31, 2006, 02:48 AM // 02:48

More appropriate question would be "Is anyone still playing factions".
Funny when you go to towns and there are literally 1 or 2 people there.
They might as well just say cantha was nuked and close it, by chapter 3 or 4 no one will even remeber the place.

I just made a new necro and did prophicies. All towns had tons of people and missions/quest are so much better, i had almost forgot how good it was.

myword · Jul 31, 2006, 02:50 AM // 02:50

i must be awesome at PvEing with henchmen then, am i in the majority or the minority?

Eet GnomeSmasher · Jul 31, 2006, 02:51 AM // 02:51

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Originally Posted by Toll Booth Willie

More appropriate question would be "Is anyone still playing factions".
Funny when you go to towns and there are literally 1 or 2 people there.

Wha? Are you in the international districts or what? And before you cite "deserted" towns in Factions, there are a couple of those in Prophecies as well.

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Originally Posted by myword

i must be awesome at PvEing with henchmen then, am i in the majority or the minority?

I honestly dont see why people are complaining how hard Kaineng was either. I was a level 14 assassin with STARTER armor and did the quests there with henchies until I was level 20 with no problems. Mind you, I was using a bow so I wasnt in the middle of level 20 mobs with my squishy assassin but still....

milias · Jul 31, 2006, 02:53 AM // 02:53

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Originally Posted by Eet GnomeSmasher

Wha? Are you in the international districts or what? And before you cite "deserted" towns in Factions, there are a couple of those in Prophecies as well.

Well, some of those outposts that you're referring to were probably quite deserted prior to Factions' release. Personally, I can almost always find people to party with in Prophecies. I play on the American servers.

Evilsod · Jul 31, 2006, 03:11 AM // 03:11

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Originally Posted by myword

i must be awesome at PvEing with henchmen then, am i in the majority or the minority?

When i started my assassin i never took a group for anything until i reached Eternal Grove and needed Alliance intervention. Why? Assassins never get groups. People whine at them constantly for dieing. I sucked as an assasin

(Frenzy ftw!). I never had any problems with Jade Brotherhood though (beyond Dragon Stomp wiping henchman out). Learn to love Watch Yourself and Distracting Blow on A/Ws.

Cantha is a bit shit tbh. 13 missions? Vizunah Square = Gankfest and Leeroyism. Eternal Grove = A THK without the fun. The entire game is just MM based. Only Arborstone is no use for MMs, that happens to be the most irritating mission on the game (****ING CITIDEL COLLAPSE). Not to mention i have to undertake the same old boring Primary Quests OVER and OVER.

Had lots of fun taking my Assassin and Rit to Tyria. They actually make Prophecies insanely easy. Ran to droks (since i don't need to reach droks to cap Charge to run to it now

) since lets be honest the jungle sucks. Its nothing but slaughtering White Mantle and the odd spider. Spectral Agony > Song of the Mists. That was actually an endgame skill to be feared (with a Spirit Rit its a bit less fearsome). Song of the Mists you hardly notice, probably because the MM is standing up front while the minions take it all...

If your finding Assassin no fun. Capture Aura of Displacement and get a team for Thunderkeep. In the last week i've done the bonus 3 times on my Assassin with Alliance teams. People won't use them because they're 'fragbait'. When they can actually solo Mursaat Eles, Necros occasionally, Mesmers (i think) and all the White Mantles easily. I spend the time wandering around the edges of the mission hopping outside, killing things then coming back. Lots of fun

More than i can say for Unwaking Waters. "ATTACK KUUNAVANG" *random dark chain lightning* Half team almost dead because the listed 200 damage is quite obviously not. Then theres the -10 degen Scales... and the best 1s, the bugged -2 energy degen which is infact health degen Spores.

As much fun as Vizunah Square is just rampaging around, the game is far too MM based... mobs can be easy. Or throw an MM into the mix and steamroll things. At least the endgame Prophecies actually needed you to use something other than Death Magic.

Toll Booth Willie · Jul 31, 2006, 04:12 AM // 04:12

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Originally Posted by Evilsod

As much fun as Vizunah Square is just rampaging around, the game is far too MM based... mobs can be easy. Or throw an MM into the mix and steamroll things. At least the endgame Prophecies actually needed you to use something other than Death Magic.

I have to agree that prophicies was more of a challenge. They nerfed aoe because omgwtfhax it does too much damage and every group always wanted nukers. Now every group wants an mm and its a cake walk. I don't want them to nerf mm's I wish other class would get buffs so there would be variety in the teams and make the missions harder. But knowing anet they'll just nerf another 20 skills next update.

Most of my friends own both chapters and without a doubt C1 is where we are most often. I find it interesting how many people are making new characters in tyria still. Obviously its better exp in cantha and skills are easier to cap, but tyria is just more fun and a better game.

Carth` · Jul 31, 2006, 04:18 AM // 04:18

I took one character half way through Factions before going back to Prophecies. All my others never went*, and my next character was then made on Tyria. So yes, some people do.

*until they were forced to for the new storage. Then they went straight back.

bigwig · Jul 31, 2006, 04:57 AM // 04:57

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Originally Posted by milias

Well, some of those outposts that you're referring to were probably quite deserted prior to Factions' release. Personally, I can almost always find people to party with in Prophecies. I play on the American servers.

I think what they're saying is that there will always be some abandoned towns, not because there are no people, but because there is no interest in going there, in both prophecies and factions.

Factions is not empty, there are plenty of people, i don't get why theres this absurd notion that nobody plays it. I was at marketplace, senji's and various other places late last night that were absolutely packed considering the time of night.

The only time i've had trouble getting a group in factions was at unwaking waters, very late at night. I've had just as much difficulty finding groups in prophecies for hells precipice or other locations as in factions.

Toll Booth Willie, i'd have to say prophecies was a challenge too, but only because i was a newbie, and am now used to playing the game. I have improved.

Alleji · Jul 31, 2006, 05:44 AM // 05:44

I like prophecies more, although I spend more time on battle isles than on the two continents combined.

Slower levelling curve, skill quests, open areas, generally open-ended way of playing (go where you like) and NO MOTHERRED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOING LOCKED GATES makes prophecies a much better place.

Eet GnomeSmasher · Jul 31, 2006, 06:20 AM // 06:20

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Originally Posted by bigwig

I think what they're saying is that there will always be some abandoned towns, not because there are no people, but because there is no interest in going there, in both prophecies and factions.

Factions is not empty, there are plenty of people, i don't get why theres this absurd notion that nobody plays it. I was at marketplace, senji's and various other places late last night that were absolutely packed considering the time of night.

That's exactly what I meant. And I think people are just outright lying or are just on crack when they say there's only 1 or 2 people in towns in Factions unless they just didnt seem to realize that they were in the international districts....

Guillaume De Sonoma · Jul 31, 2006, 06:40 AM // 06:40

I prefer Tyria, much easier to get skills and a PvP ready character

Carl Butanananowski · Jul 31, 2006, 06:53 AM // 06:53

im in really in depth as most of the people here O.o (i had no idea you could go between cantha and tyria) but i lean towards tyria..(just started a necro

) canthas just boring for me. i never got off the island place..

iunno. is it worth it to finish factions campaign O.o?

Andisa Kalorn · Jul 31, 2006, 07:05 AM // 07:05

After dragging 8 characters through Cantha faster than I got one character through Tyria, I find myself spending most of my time in Tyria again. I have nothing left to do in Cantha but farm, and if I'm gonna farm, I'd rather it be somewhere pretty and not crowded, laggy slums. Furthermore, I like just wandering around sometimes and only in Tyria can you feel "far" from civilization... the map of Cantha is just too dense.

Not to mention the really irritating fact that you have to do the missions in the right order to get anywhere in Cantha. Some missions, after you do 5-6 times, you never want to see again (yes i'm talking about YOU arborstone).

Tyria just feels so free in comparison.

Yarly · Jul 31, 2006, 07:53 AM // 07:53

I only ever once made a canthan character, an assasin, got halfway through then deleted her.

Ive just made a new mesmer in Tyria and love every bit of the first game, so no reason for me to head into cantha again untill i really need to. For starters its way to laggy for me, and i just love Tyria so no point in me leaving.

Cebe · Jul 31, 2006, 12:15 PM // 12:15

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Originally Posted by Andisa Kalorn

(yes i'm talking about YOU arborstone)

Ah, come on now, Aborstone aint that bad!! LOL

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Originally Posted by Yarly

I only ever once made a canthan character, an assasin, got halfway through then deleted her.

Enough Said!

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I'm afraid I have to disagree...I love Cantha...I think it's because I started there and bought Prophecies afterwards... Tyria is starting to grow on me a bit more now but I hate starting characters in Tyria, it's SOOOOO slow. Does pre-searing have, like, 'Run at -66% normal speed' on it or something. Anyways, I deleted my Tyrian born elementalist to make another Canthan-born character.

I took my Canthan Ele over to Tyria first, started at Lions Arch "Hmm, nice place" I thought...then I went outside. I walked through to the black curtain (with henchies) and just got pwnd. I HATE HELLHOUNDS. People say canthan monsters are overpowered - but when I aggro a tyrian monster, ALL the others come at me from as far as the eye can see... Why is this? I didn't aggo them, but they all still came, this is particularly bad with the Ettins outside that ascalon settlement in North Kryta. You aggo one, and you get ten.

I do like the fact the you get skills in prophecies, but I don't know, I might rather have the money like you do for the Canthan quests, but then again, my skills cost a platinum to buy now, so free ones isn't so bad! I don't like the crappy weapons though...what is my ele going to do with a tall shield exactly? Salvage!

Soooo...I think if the OP is not finding too many people around, try changing the time of day you play, if possible... I went to the Eternal Grove in the Echivold Forest at about lunch time and there was no-one there, I went back at 8PM and it was packed... Just a thought.